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PostSubject: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 4:29 pm

http://www.rexano.org//StatePages/FL_Reptiles_s0318.pdf

Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318
By Senator Sobel
31-00241-10 2010318__
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1 A bill to be entitled
2 An act relating to reptiles; amending s. 379.372,
3 F.S.; prohibiting any person from possessing,
4 importing, selling, trading, or breeding certain
5 specified reptile species, including a reptile
6 designated as a reptile of concern by the Fish and
7 Wildlife Conservation Commission; providing certain
8 exceptions applicable to reptiles for which the owner
9 holds a permit issued before a specified date;
10 providing an effective date.
11
12 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
13
14 Section 1. Section 379.372, Florida Statutes, is amended to
15 read:
16 379.372 Capturing, keeping, possessing, transporting, or
17 exhibiting venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern; license
18 required.—
19 (1)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall capture, keep,
20 possess, or exhibit any poisonous or venomous reptile or reptile
21 of concern without first having obtained a special permit or
22 license therefor from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation
23 Commission as provided in this section.
24 (b)(2) By December 31, 2007, the commission shall establish
25 a list of reptiles of concern, including venomous, nonvenomous,
26 native, nonnative, or other reptiles, which require additional
27 regulation for capture, possession, transportation, or
28 exhibition due to their nature, habits, status, or potential to
29 negatively impact the environment, ecology, or humans.
Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318
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30 (c)(3) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or
31 corporation, whether licensed hereunder or not, to capture,
32 keep, possess, or exhibit any venomous reptile or reptile of
33 concern in any manner not approved as safe, secure, and proper
34 by the commission. Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern held
35 in captivity are subject to inspection by the commission. The
36 commission shall determine whether the reptiles are securely,
37 safely, and properly penned. In the event that the reptiles are
38 not safely penned, the commission shall report the situation in
39 writing to the person, firm, or corporation owning the reptiles.
40 Failure of the person, firm, or corporation to correct the
41 situation within 30 days after such written notice shall be
42 grounds for revocation of the license or permit of the person,
43 firm, or corporation.
44 (d)(4) Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern shall be
45 transported in a safe, secure, and proper manner. The commission
46 shall establish by rule the requirements for the transportation
47 of venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern.
48 (2)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall keep, possess,
49 import into the state, sell, barter, trade, or breed the
50 following species for personal use or for sale for personal use:
51 1. Burmese or Indian python (Python molurus).
52 2. Reticulated python (Python reticulatus).
53 3. African rock python (Python sebae).
54 4. Amethystine or scrub python (Morelia amethystinus).
55 5. Anaconda (Eunectes).
56 6. Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus).
57 7. Any other reptile designated as a reptile of concern by
58 the commission.
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59 (b) However, if a person holds a permit issued before July
60 1, 2010, pursuant to subsection (1) to legally possess a species
61 listed in paragraph (a), that person may possess the individual
62 reptile for the remainder of that reptile’s life. Any person who
63 possesses an anaconda, other than a green anaconda (Eunectes
64 murinus), and who meets the required criteria must obtain a
65 permit pursuant to subsection (1) by October 1, 2010, in order
66 to keep that anaconda for the remainder of its life.
67 Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2010.
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Where did you find that? Do you know if it has passed? I have not heard of it before. king
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 5:07 pm

I got it off the rexano site, they list all exotic animal legislation state by state and federal. I don't know if it has passed yet but the way things have been going it's pretty likely it will, IMO. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
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Looks like nothing has been done on it since 12/9/09 and hopefully nothing will. I don't understand why so many people(and use that term lightly) have to be such an anus. king

http://www.flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&Mode=Bills&ElementID=JumpToBox&SubMenu=1&Year=2010&billnum=318
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 5:29 pm

Well I know there's no convincing them not to pass it if they want to, when I got in contact with Nelson and company's various offices about S373 they told me no one would be changing their minds on anything no matter how many calls or letters they got. Or they gave me a big ol' effyou in other words.
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That is why they all need to be voted out. if they are not willing to listen to the people then they don't need to be in office. Commy Fatherless male. king
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Is it leagle to hope certain people who hold elected office who you really, really dont like, die in a head on or plane crash. just asking
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Ive never voted for the chicken (BLEEP)
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm

well I guess I gotta send my info in
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 7:04 pm

You'd better, just in case. Mine's being sent in next week, week after at the latest. Depends on how long it takes for work to mail my W2 and for us to get our taxes back.
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I'm Going to get my ROC/VR after I move and get our taxes back. Hopefully. king
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As far as I can tell, it is saying FOR PERSONAL USE, meaning businesses can display and sell to eachother
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 8:39 pm

also doesnt say you cant export out of state which is what most breeders and importers in florida do anyway now that only permit holders can buy one from them in this state.
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Between this and S.373 the trade in large constrictors is going to come to a screeching halt.
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Maybe we have to wait and see.
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Forum just flooded with guests. I posted a link to the Salazar thread on Facebook and Twitter.


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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyThu Jan 21, 2010 7:26 pm

Link to FL senate site with the proposed bill S318.
http://www.flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?Mode=Bills&SubMenu=1&BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&BillNum=0318
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I really hate people a lot of times. To many people are just a waste of air and space. king
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyThu Jan 21, 2010 8:08 pm

I don't know what in the hell they think this is going to accomplish, it's just as likely people will STILL keep ROCs only now they'll check up on the people who put the time, effort and money into getting a permit and bust THEIR balls. Ridiculous.
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Companion bill to S318 in the Florida House of Representatives.
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=43125&BillText=reptile&HouseChamber=B&SessionId=64&

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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptyThu Jan 21, 2010 10:59 pm

West Virginia hasn't any exotic animal laws at all!!!! You do however have to get a 4$ permit for native wildlife. Donald shultz is talking about stuff he did with USARK and says he is fighting the python bill.
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Sc doesn't have many animal laws. No or few ROC, VR, CROC. Laws. Atleast yet. king
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2009-2010 Bill 4218: Venomous reptiles - South Carolina Legislature Online
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_2009-2010/bills/4218.htm

It's NOTHING like ours though, from what I can tell is just tells you not to be an idiot and if someone gets hurt due to your idiocy it's your fault and you're going to jail.
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 11:21 pm

Snake, your still getting your permit right?
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PostSubject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all!   Get your ROC now or not at all! EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 11:24 pm

I was reading that SC bill over the weekend and its stupid, If your animal gets out and kills someone you are fined up to 5,000 and or jailed for less than 1 year. Its not even a feloney. My guess is the criminal charges would be the least of your worries, the civil suit will be much worse.
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