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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:29 pm | |
| http://www.rexano.org//StatePages/FL_Reptiles_s0318.pdf
Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318 By Senator Sobel 31-00241-10 2010318__ Page 1 of 3 CODING: Words stricken are deletions; words underlined are additions. 1 A bill to be entitled 2 An act relating to reptiles; amending s. 379.372, 3 F.S.; prohibiting any person from possessing, 4 importing, selling, trading, or breeding certain 5 specified reptile species, including a reptile 6 designated as a reptile of concern by the Fish and 7 Wildlife Conservation Commission; providing certain 8 exceptions applicable to reptiles for which the owner 9 holds a permit issued before a specified date; 10 providing an effective date. 11 12 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida: 13 14 Section 1. Section 379.372, Florida Statutes, is amended to 15 read: 16 379.372 Capturing, keeping, possessing, transporting, or 17 exhibiting venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern; license 18 required.— 19 (1)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall capture, keep, 20 possess, or exhibit any poisonous or venomous reptile or reptile 21 of concern without first having obtained a special permit or 22 license therefor from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation 23 Commission as provided in this section. 24 (b)(2) By December 31, 2007, the commission shall establish 25 a list of reptiles of concern, including venomous, nonvenomous, 26 native, nonnative, or other reptiles, which require additional 27 regulation for capture, possession, transportation, or 28 exhibition due to their nature, habits, status, or potential to 29 negatively impact the environment, ecology, or humans. Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318 31-00241-10 2010318__ Page 2 of 3 CODING: Words stricken are deletions; words underlined are additions. 30 (c)(3) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or 31 corporation, whether licensed hereunder or not, to capture, 32 keep, possess, or exhibit any venomous reptile or reptile of 33 concern in any manner not approved as safe, secure, and proper 34 by the commission. Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern held 35 in captivity are subject to inspection by the commission. The 36 commission shall determine whether the reptiles are securely, 37 safely, and properly penned. In the event that the reptiles are 38 not safely penned, the commission shall report the situation in 39 writing to the person, firm, or corporation owning the reptiles. 40 Failure of the person, firm, or corporation to correct the 41 situation within 30 days after such written notice shall be 42 grounds for revocation of the license or permit of the person, 43 firm, or corporation. 44 (d)(4) Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern shall be 45 transported in a safe, secure, and proper manner. The commission 46 shall establish by rule the requirements for the transportation 47 of venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern. 48 (2)(a) No person, firm, or corporation shall keep, possess, 49 import into the state, sell, barter, trade, or breed the 50 following species for personal use or for sale for personal use: 51 1. Burmese or Indian python (Python molurus). 52 2. Reticulated python (Python reticulatus). 53 3. African rock python (Python sebae). 54 4. Amethystine or scrub python (Morelia amethystinus). 55 5. Anaconda (Eunectes). 56 6. Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus). 57 7. Any other reptile designated as a reptile of concern by 58 the commission. Florida Senate - 2010 SB 318 31-00241-10 2010318__ Page 3 of 3 CODING: Words stricken are deletions; words underlined are additions. 59 (b) However, if a person holds a permit issued before July 60 1, 2010, pursuant to subsection (1) to legally possess a species 61 listed in paragraph (a), that person may possess the individual 62 reptile for the remainder of that reptile’s life. Any person who 63 possesses an anaconda, other than a green anaconda (Eunectes 64 murinus), and who meets the required criteria must obtain a 65 permit pursuant to subsection (1) by October 1, 2010, in order 66 to keep that anaconda for the remainder of its life. 67 Section 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2010. | |
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Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:01 pm | |
| Where did you find that? Do you know if it has passed? I have not heard of it before. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| I got it off the rexano site, they list all exotic animal legislation state by state and federal. I don't know if it has passed yet but the way things have been going it's pretty likely it will, IMO. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. | |
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Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:22 pm | |
| Looks like nothing has been done on it since 12/9/09 and hopefully nothing will. I don't understand why so many people(and use that term lightly) have to be such an anus. http://www.flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&Mode=Bills&ElementID=JumpToBox&SubMenu=1&Year=2010&billnum=318 | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:29 pm | |
| Well I know there's no convincing them not to pass it if they want to, when I got in contact with Nelson and company's various offices about S373 they told me no one would be changing their minds on anything no matter how many calls or letters they got. Or they gave me a big ol' effyou in other words. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:57 pm | |
| That is why they all need to be voted out. if they are not willing to listen to the people then they don't need to be in office. Commy Fatherless male. | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:56 pm | |
| Is it leagle to hope certain people who hold elected office who you really, really dont like, die in a head on or plane crash. just asking | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| Ive never voted for the chicken (BLEEP) | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| well I guess I gotta send my info in | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:04 pm | |
| You'd better, just in case. Mine's being sent in next week, week after at the latest. Depends on how long it takes for work to mail my W2 and for us to get our taxes back. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:41 pm | |
| I'm Going to get my ROC/VR after I move and get our taxes back. Hopefully. | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:37 pm | |
| As far as I can tell, it is saying FOR PERSONAL USE, meaning businesses can display and sell to eachother | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| also doesnt say you cant export out of state which is what most breeders and importers in florida do anyway now that only permit holders can buy one from them in this state. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:42 pm | |
| Between this and S.373 the trade in large constrictors is going to come to a screeching halt. | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:45 pm | |
| Maybe we have to wait and see. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:50 pm | |
| Forum just flooded with guests. I posted a link to the Salazar thread on Facebook and Twitter.
Last edited by snakehooked on Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:51 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Phalangeal retardation.) | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:26 pm | |
| Link to FL senate site with the proposed bill S318. http://www.flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?Mode=Bills&SubMenu=1&BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&BillNum=0318 | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| I really hate people a lot of times. To many people are just a waste of air and space. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:08 pm | |
| I don't know what in the hell they think this is going to accomplish, it's just as likely people will STILL keep ROCs only now they'll check up on the people who put the time, effort and money into getting a permit and bust THEIR balls. Ridiculous. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:21 pm | |
| Companion bill to S318 in the Florida House of Representatives. http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=43125&BillText=reptile&HouseChamber=B&SessionId=64&
You guys wanna move to Nevada? | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:59 pm | |
| West Virginia hasn't any exotic animal laws at all!!!! You do however have to get a 4$ permit for native wildlife. Donald shultz is talking about stuff he did with USARK and says he is fighting the python bill. | |
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Admin Admin
Posts : 286 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 48 Location : Middleburg, Florida
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:23 am | |
| Sc doesn't have many animal laws. No or few ROC, VR, CROC. Laws. Atleast yet. | |
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snakehooked Dorkus majorkus
Posts : 347 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 42 Location : Orange Park, FL
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:10 pm | |
| 2009-2010 Bill 4218: Venomous reptiles - South Carolina Legislature Online http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_2009-2010/bills/4218.htm
It's NOTHING like ours though, from what I can tell is just tells you not to be an idiot and if someone gets hurt due to your idiocy it's your fault and you're going to jail. | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| Snake, your still getting your permit right? | |
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Whopper I walk through the drive-thru!
Posts : 363 Join date : 2009-12-31 Age : 43 Location : Jacksonville, Fl
| Subject: Re: Get your ROC now or not at all! Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:24 pm | |
| I was reading that SC bill over the weekend and its stupid, If your animal gets out and kills someone you are fined up to 5,000 and or jailed for less than 1 year. Its not even a feloney. My guess is the criminal charges would be the least of your worries, the civil suit will be much worse. | |
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